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  • Fermenter insulator

    With the winter in full force in gauteng, I am trying to devise a plan to keep my fermenter at a constant temp.

    So I found an old polystyrene box I wanted to use as a disposable cooler box. Now I have other plans for it.

    Sheets of polystyrene were very expensive, the prices I got anyway.

    My coppertun fits perfecyty in the box. I've recorded the temperature in the box over a day or two.

    I will add a heat source with a small fan. I will do a recording of the temperature again and see if I can get it a constant 20 DegC or so. I also plan to measure the water temperature to see the difference. Here is a pic of the setup.

  • #2
    Wow....looks great. I wish I had a box like that cos I'm sitting with the same problem right now (I posted an entry on my blog about it).

    Keep us posted...
    Slainte Mhaith!!

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    • #3
      Originally posted by StevenD (Slainthe) View Post
      Wow....looks great. I wish I had a box like that cos I'm sitting with the same problem right now (I posted an entry on my blog about it).

      Keep us posted...
      BG were selling some, iirc

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      • #4
        What were you planning on using as a heat source? I was considering something similar. I figured out that between 100W and 200W would work nicely - raise the temp of 20l in a reasonable time and also not be too hot (don't want to melt the plastic or insulation) . I have tried to find some of the wire used for underfloor heating as I thought this would give a reasonable heat distribution throughout the insulated box but I haven't found a source for this stuff yet. From what I can gather it's rated at about 13W/m so around 10m should do the trick. My plan is to regulate the temperature by controlling the power (On/Off) to the heater by using an Arduino microprocessor. That way I could trend the temp too to see how well it works.

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        • #5
          I have seen online, some guys use a light bulb in a paint can with holes in it.
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          • #6
            Ja in the "olden days" when light bulbs were incandescent a 100W bulb could be used but in the modern era you can't even buy an incandescent blub anymore - I think Eishkom has made them illegal.....

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            • #7
              Fermenter insulator

              A 100w bulb is FAR too hot for a fermentation chamber, especially a temperature controlled one. I use a 15w bulb in a can in a much bigger chamber than this one and it's perfect even when the ambient temperature has been 6 degrees at night.

              There's a thread where someone had constant problems with temperature being very unstable and they were using a 100w bulb
              Give a man a beer, waste an hour. Teach a man to brew, and waste a lifetime!

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              • #8
                I got a light holder which is tapered. Time got me before I could connect it up to a 7w cfl. I've felt the holder becomes hot to the touch and thought it would do the trick. I think a 100w would melt my polystyrene box. What effect would unnatural light have on the fermenting process?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JohnDoe View Post
                  What effect would unnatural light have on the fermenting process?
                  Paint it Black. No apologies to Mick Jagger
                  Give a man a beer, waste an hour. Teach a man to brew, and waste a lifetime!

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                  • #10
                    I've been wanting to try adapting the paint can idea for use with a fish tank heater.

                    The basic idea is to fill a container with water or a glycol solution, pop a fish tank heater in and close it up. It's a low-tech, self-regulating heat source.

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for the heads up regarding the required amount of power - guess I would have severely over-done it with 100W! A 13W CFL is much easier and cheaper to source.

                      What temp do you aim for in your fermentation chamber? I'm new to this and have only done a couple of brews - the first one I was a bit worried about it getting too warm but the second I was worried about it being too cold at night - stick on thermometer indicated a low of around 15 to 16 deg C. My limited understanding is that 22 - 23 deg C is the desirable temp - is this correct?

                      Thanks

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                      • #12
                        It really depends on the yeast strain. For a rule of thumb, I suggest between 18 and 20C for ale yeast. Check the packet of yeast though. It should indicate the optimal temp range. If not, a quick web search should be able to tell you.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Simple View Post
                          Ja in the "olden days" when light bulbs were incandescent a 100W bulb could be used but in the modern era you can't even buy an incandescent blub anymore - I think Eishkom has made them illegal.....

                          Who said they are illegal? http://www.makro.co.za/home-and-cate...lobes-266356EA
                          For things I'm selling:
                          - I can be contacted at homebrewer at dline dot co dot za
                          - I am located in Pretoria East
                          - I am always open to reasonable offers, especially if you are picking up more than one thing I'm selling.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by getack View Post
                            I think his statement was a bit TIC
                            Give a man a beer, waste an hour. Teach a man to brew, and waste a lifetime!

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                            • #15
                              Now that I think of it, I am not sure if a cfl will last with the on & off switching.

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