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  • blackfoxbrew your Juicy beer looks nice, but it's not a SMaSH. SMaSH beers are Single Malt and Single Hop. Since you added oats, it's no longer a single malt beer, but that's just a technicality. Looks great!

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    • haha yes yes! I was waiting for that roasting I guess we can term this one a SMOASH then

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      • I don't think 10% oats to aid in head retention and a little more mouthfeel will move a beer out of the SMaSH range ... Not in my books.
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        • It does. The second you add specialty malts or grains, it's no longer a SMaSH, just like it's not a lager if you don't make it with lager yeast, and it's not a porter if you use roast barley.

          Keeping in mind SMaSH beers were designed to give you the raw taste of a single grain and a single hop. If you have a single grain but it lacks mouthfeel or head retention and you add a specialty to buff it up, then it's no longer a SMaSH and you already know that the malt doesn't "do it" for you, so to speak.

          I don't really care, it's just what it is. 10% is quite a large percentage on the base grain bill. Most of my lighter beers don't even have 5% specialty malts added.

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          • Originally posted by blackfoxbrew View Post
            AlexBrew, wait what!? you have recipe for king's blockhouse or did I ready that incorrectly? gimme gimme please!!!
            Hi .. yes, this recipe was on this forum already. I did brew it a while back and came out great .. but not 'exactly' the same as the real mcCoy.. The original recipe calls for a double dry hop - I only did a single DH. That said, there is another taste missing form the clone recipe.. I haven't identified it yet.. It could possibly be a combination of several hops - or ratio's thereof.

            EDIT: It's that prominent taste of lychees, which is lacking from the clone. A buddy of mine tasted the original and said it's got a coconut flavour to it.. I googled and found that Sabro hops have a coconut flavour. Dunno, what do you guys think about that?
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            Last edited by AlexBrew; 4 January 2022, 10:20.

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            • Originally posted by JIGSAW View Post
              I don't think 10% oats to aid in head retention and a little more mouthfeel will move a beer out of the SMaSH range ... Not in my books.
              Yeah so the story is my brother in law was down from Sydney - he is always telling me about these crazy hazy, ultra hopped, juicy, lactose NEIPAs he drinks and figured I would brew something that could please that palate…
              It being Dec and as a result of poor planning all I had was a lot of Galaxy, some pre milled Pale Malt and of course…good ‘ol Jungle Oats [emoji1787]
              At least the beer came out juicy and with a nice mouthfeel - albeit not a purist smash.

              This past weekend I did brew a true to the name SMaSH:
              100% Chateau Pale
              Tons of Amarillo (tiny 60min, 15min, 5min, whirlpool)
              Hoping for something simple, dry and clearish [emoji1695][emoji1695][emoji1695]
              And split the batch into 2 fermenters - one got US-05 and the other a packet of BRY-97 although I dont expect much of a difference it would be interesting to see…


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              • I honestly prefer brewing by the ones. One base malt, one adjunct, one specialty malt and one hop. Its adds a bit of complexity as smash beer have always been a bit dissapointing.

                Google by the ones for a better explanantion.

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                • Well, the galaxy SMaSH I made was so yum on a hot December day that Im willing to brew it a few more times exactly as is for the rest of summer.

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                  • Originally posted by blackfoxbrew View Post
                    .. And split the batch into 2 fermenters - one got US-05 and the other a packet of BRY-97 although I dont expect much of a difference it would be interesting to see…
                    https://brulosophy.com/2015/06/01/sa...iment-results/

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                    • Ah yeah thanks AlexBrew - found this after the split batch brew on Sat. It was kind of a spur of the moment decision so didnt really research too much…

                      Also, what size did you brew your DP kings clonehouse?


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                      • Originally posted by blackfoxbrew View Post
                        Also, what size did you brew your DP kings clonehouse?
                        I generally brew 45 litre batches in a 50l kettle.

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                        • Split batch between Fermentis US-05 and Lallemand London Ale. a Blonde Ale mashed at 68°C to test the % difference in attenuation

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                          Last edited by Harhm; 7 January 2022, 09:57.
                          2017 SANHC-Finals-German Pilsner.2019 Academy of Taste-1st Lager +1st Overall-German Leichtbier.2019 Free State Fermenters-1st Place-Australian Sparkling Ale.2019 SANHC-Final Round-German Leichtbier.2020 SANHC-Top 5-EishBock.2021 SANHC-Low Alcohol Cat: 2nd-2%Lager, Over All Cat: 2nd-Schwarzbier.2022 Free State Fermenters-1st-American light Lager.2022 Fools and Fans National Competition-Top 5-Dunkles Bock

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                          • ^ Looks great & also reminds me of my own Blonde currently in keg

                            Posting any differences ?
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                            • Originally posted by JIGSAW View Post
                              ^ Looks great & also reminds me of my own Blonde currently in keg

                              Posting any differences ?
                              Thanks, both realy good beers, they taste different enough that I can tell them apart, at this stage I do prefer the London ale. US-05 can sometimes have a "peachy" taste that I can ID. Will have to do another split batch to confirm the figures as the results does not lighn up to what I expexted, FG's within 1 point of each other

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                              Last edited by Harhm; 7 January 2022, 16:44.
                              2017 SANHC-Finals-German Pilsner.2019 Academy of Taste-1st Lager +1st Overall-German Leichtbier.2019 Free State Fermenters-1st Place-Australian Sparkling Ale.2019 SANHC-Final Round-German Leichtbier.2020 SANHC-Top 5-EishBock.2021 SANHC-Low Alcohol Cat: 2nd-2%Lager, Over All Cat: 2nd-Schwarzbier.2022 Free State Fermenters-1st-American light Lager.2022 Fools and Fans National Competition-Top 5-Dunkles Bock

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                              • First brew with GF. Irish red. Only 5 days in bottle so just testing, she is amazing, exactly what I wanted.




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