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  • #46
    OK, so some progress has been made. Storytime!

    It all started with a pressure cooker still I built when I had a batch of beer turn out "iffy" and I felt sorry to just dump it. The pressure cooker ran overtime until I decided to stop playing around, it's time to go bigger (I like this hobby). The tons of people asking for more booze also helped this decision along, and 95% of them said they're willing to pay for the stuff (not making money) so I can just keep making. Because it took my a whole day to strip and do a spirit run on 20l's worth of wash, producing only around 3l of useable spirit, I decided to scale up. Way up. So here goes...

    It started with this pressure cooker still. It is now sold:


    Drew a rough idea, and got to planning:


    The above pic was sent to the guys are LiveCopper and the guys there sorted me out with a 2" T-piece, a 54mmx28mm reducer, 28mm copper pipe, end caps and some other bits and bobs. Next up was finding a kettle. I had plans for urns and stuff but in the end a decomissioned beer keg was found. Picked up a 50l for a steal:


    Next up was finding fittings and stuff. I checked out sites like Distillique and Ketelkraal and quickly learned that this build was going to cost me THOUSANDS if I don't slow down - quickly. So I spoke to some guys and RudiC on here told me to get in touch with Jonathan Waters, from StillFab. Jonathan pointed me in the right direction and for a few hundred bucks I got what I needed from BCG Stainless:


    Next up was the welding. I arranged a time and all that with Jonathan and he gave me access to his workshop's guys. He also arranged some electronics for me to be able to control the still in the end:


    I handed in the keg and some of the fittings, and they did their magic. Picked up the keg, with these changes. First up, the bottom keg ring was cut off and legs welded in its place:


    Then a 3/4" SS barrel nipple, to connect to the 3/4" 3-piece ball valve:


    After that, the element's fitting. I initially wanted to weld in a regular 2" SS ferrule, but that would have meant I'd had to buy the geyser ferrule and then fix it to the kettle with a tri-clamp each time. Instead, I opted to weld the geyser ferrule directly to the kettle. No additional stuff, no additional cost. This is a standard 1 1/4" geyser element fitting, fitting a slimline element perfectly:


    And the 3kW element screwed in place. Easy as that:


    At the top of the keg I opted to cut off the keg's ferrule and instead welded in the 2" SS ferrule I purchased, but didn't end up using for the element. I did that because the keg's fitting is thicker, and the tri-clamp was having issues clamping down on it properly.

    Next up was the column build. Using all the bits and bobs from LiveCopper, I still had to find 2" copper pipe for the column/riser. This was easier said than done. LiveCopper didn't have. Chamberlains didn't have. Builders didn't have. Distillique had, but man, what a price... So I drove out to Plumblink and as luck would have it, they were sold out. The guy at the counter though put my name on a list and eventually ended up cutting off a 1m length for me at one of their other branches, selling me a 1m length. Luckily, because a length costs like R2.4k.

    Because few places have copper ferrules, I looked for a while before I found one. New brew shop in Pretoria, Yeah Brew, had them in stock, and for a decent price. I drove out there and picked up a ferrule as well as some copper mesh to stuff the column with. Queue soldering. I'm no pro, but I've done it before, albeit on MUCH smaller jobs. The 2" soldering was a mission, but finally I got the ferrule soldered to the pipe with no leaks. And here it is, fitting PERFECTLY on the gasket on the kettle:


    When that was done, next up was the top of the column. Because I've grown used to an electronic thermometer at the top of the column on my pressure cooker still, I decided to copy that design EXACTLY. So that's what I did. At the top, a T-piece. The guys at LiveCopper didn't have one that went from 54mm down to 2 x 28mm, so I had to use the reducer there. The end cap way at the top gets a 4mm hole drilled in it, through which the probe fits, and is sealed with flour paste with each run. The 28mm to the side goes to a small section of pipe, moving into a compression fitting so I can control the lyne arm's angle. But PICS:


    And then some pics of my soldering. Like I said, not the best soldering, but it doesn't leak, at least:






    Now, to the lyne arm. The lyne arm is whatever was left over from the 1m piece of 28mm pipe I bought, and fixed to the compression fitting. The fitting was lined with PTFE tape inside and out, so it SHOULD not leak:


    And waaaay at the end of the lyne arm, I soldered a 28mm x 15mm reducer. This goes to a piece of 15mm pipe on a compression fitting, purely so I can remove the condenser from the whole shebang, making storage easier:


    And that's all I have for now. I'll solder in the rest probably on Sunday or so. Then I have to assemble the control box and it should be ready to run next week sometime. I can't wait!

    EDIT: Oh yes, I measured the still's height. The top of the end cap stands 1.75m from the ground. A pic for some idea on how big it's turning out to be:

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    • #47
      nice update
      The Problem With The World Is That Everyone Is A Few Drinks Behind.!

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      • #48
        Thanks. I'll probably finish it up this week sometime. It's just fitting the coil to the bucket, sealing it, and then connecting the coil to the lyne arm. I'm going to start another sugar wash tomorrow morning probably so I have around 40l of wash to run through the still in one go. Hopefully do the vinegar run before the weekend, just need to get some cable that I can use to build the control box first.

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        • #49
          Well done, nice progress Toxxyc

          I like the bottom mods to the keg, looks great.

          Now that you're almost ready, the load shedding thing is with us again.

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          • #50
            I never posted an update, remembered this when I saw the previous thread. A lot has changed since I built this, but here we are.

            Anyway, The still as above is complete. At first, I ran the still using some cable I had lying around and that was a health hazard of note, so I stopped that immediately. I replaced the cable with a decent cable and built a control box for it. The control box is literally a solid state relay (SSR), with an inline ammeter and a potentiometer. That's literally it. Nothing else. The potentiometer is wired onto the input side of the SSR, the ammeter's coil is slipped over the Live wire going to the element and the rest is just straight up on live electricity, as simple as that.

            To mount, I didn't (and still don't) have the money to build this into a proper box, so I just used a regular plastic tupperware thing I had here at home. It works fine, but I'd like to replace it with something proper in the future.

            For cooling I repurposed a computer fan that's been lying around, as well as a 12VDC power brick. I cut the cables on everything shorter to fit the tupperware container, fitted a toggle switch and this is the end result:



            Showed running currently at almost full power. Full power would be 13.6A on the element I have installed there, for a total of 3,000W. I typically run it at full power during the heatup and as soon as my column temperature (at the top) hits 60°C I turn it down to 6.5A or thereabouts. This gives me a nice, steady stream of distillate from the end of my coil bucket.

            Then, the coil bucket. This is probably the thing that needs the most work on this still. It works. In fact it works really well, but it's a pain in the ass to keep going every time. The coil I got from a forum member who's brother in law (if I remember correctly) is a plumber, and he bent it for me from a full length of 15mm hard-drawn copper pipe. It fits the bucket and chills the distillate really well, but where it exits the bucket it leaks, it's huge, it's a mission to set up and really not fun to work with when you're distilling for 7 or 8 hours.

            Anyway, a picture of the still running. Think this was a rum run, actually. Note the towel on the floor to catch the leaking water from the cooling bucket:


            And the end result was, well, interesting. It disappeared like mist before the sun, to be honest:

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            • #51
              Looks good for a home still

              ....can't you run the pipe through a bung or grommet out the bucket. Sorry if that's a stupid question as I can't see how it comes out at the moment

              PS: no cover for that element wires? ... looks like a hazard being open like that atm.
              The Problem With The World Is That Everyone Is A Few Drinks Behind.!

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              • #52
                The pipe comes out of a hole I cut and then tried to seal, but it doesn't, so it leaks. I'm going to change the coil over to a Liebig condenser sometime in the future. More compact, easier to use, etc. etc. I've got a water pump I can use so there's really no excuse.

                Regarding the element wires - yeah they were exposed when I ran it in my brewery (because nobody else is there so it's fine), but I'm looking to cover them for sure. The top of a 500ml coke bottle apparently works well.

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