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[AlexBrew Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close AlexBrew]

A couple weeks back someone mentioned Sierra Nevada Pale Ale - it got my attention for the next brew I want to do - possibly this Thursday.. so I consulted professor google and found the origional recipe on the Sierra Nevada website:
https://sierranevada.com/blog/pale-ale-homebrew-recipe/
Looking at the hop additions, they claim:

• Cascade | 0.5 oz. 90 min
• Cascade | 0.75 oz. 60 min
• Cascade | 2 oz. 30 min
• Cascade | 2 oz. 0 min (flame out)

Ok, so I'm not going to boil for 90minutes, to I'll compress it a bit to fit.

Looking further, I see on BYO:
https://byo.com/recipe/sierra-nevada-pale-ale-clone-2/
where they have:

Magnum hops (60 min.) 0.5 oz
Perle hops (60 min.) 0.5 oz.
Cascade hops (30 min.) 2 oz.
Cascade hops (0 min.) 2 oz.

BrewersFriend has a similar hopbill than the above.

OK.. then I read this article that Beerholic posted:
https://byo.com/article/save-hops-post-boil/

and I though, let me ditch all the mid and late additions and do it this way:
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I matched the IBU's but looking at it, looks a bit empty - any thoughts?

[Langchop Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Langchop]

Your thinking aligns closely with my thinking these days, but I tend to favour the one addition at 60 min (or as long as I want to boil for) and then one late one at 5 or 1 minute. I tend to believe the volatiles boil off quite quickly and dont add that much after that.

[AlexBrew Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close AlexBrew]

Maybe hops in at flameout, then whirlpool for 20minutes or till temp drops to 80 or 70°C, then chill and pitch.

I tend to believe the volatiles boil off quite quickly and dont add that much after that.

Exactly what that BYO article was all about.

[groenspookasem Banned Find all posts View Profile Close groenspookasem]

yeah, i'd do that, you'd find that many people do away with bittering, flavor and even aroma additions and just chuck it all in the whirlpool. i think it started with the neipa rage.
do keep in mind that adjusting your boil time has an impact to boil off, but it's easy enough to counter.

[JIGSAW Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JIGSAW]

I would keep the original recipe and if you're going to boil for 60min, drop the 14g @90min down to 60 and then make up the IBU's that you loose from doing that with some Magnum hops

[JIGSAW Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close JIGSAW]

Looking at that original recipe again, the AA must have been as low as 3.8% to come in at 38IBU's for that recipe @ 19L

Just keep that in mind, as the Cascade from my LHBS is sitting at 6.2%, so a lot less is needed

[Langchop Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close Langchop]

Maybe hops in at flameout, then whirlpool for 20minutes or till temp drops to 80 or 70°C, then chill and pitch.


Exactly what that BYO article was all about.

Busted! I didnt click on the link and read the article . But I did now skim through it quickly... interesting read.

[groenspookasem Banned Find all posts View Profile Close groenspookasem]

lol, i also didn't read the byo article, but i guess me earlier post still aligns fairly close to the article, since reading it now...anyway, the difference in the whirlpool ipa vs whirlpool neipa is the dry hopping during active fermentation for neipa, fwiw.

[BeerHolic Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close BeerHolic]

Exactly what that BYO article was all about.

Not sure what article is being refered to but I did read the article below in this regard.

https://byo.com/article/save-hops-post-boil/

[AlexBrew Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close AlexBrew]

Not sure what article is being refered to but I did read the article below in this regard.

https://byo.com/article/save-hops-post-boil/

Yes, that one. Interesting. Makes sense what they say there.

[groenspookasem Banned Find all posts View Profile Close groenspookasem]

Yes, that one. Interesting. Makes sense what they say there.

Yeah, I'd like to know the hop oil content breakdown for southern passion is. Anyone with some skinny on it?

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[AlexBrew Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close AlexBrew]

Yeah, I'd like to know the hop oil content breakdown for southern passion is. Anyone with some skinny on it?

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https://www.zahops.com/#za-hops-descriptions

[AlexBrew Senior Member Find all posts View Profile Close AlexBrew]

Just keep that in mind, as the Cascade from my LHBS is sitting at 6.2%, so a lot less is needed

Good you mention this - I double checked the packaging. My first 50g Cascade was 6.8% - hence logged into my software. Subsequently bough 1kg cascade which listed 8.3% AA. My SNPA composition listed the first purchased hops - had I continued with this false info, I would have ended up with 48IBUs.

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[groenspookasem Banned Find all posts View Profile Close groenspookasem]

https://www.zahops.com/#za-hops-descriptions

cheers, just dumped 60g in for the dh, tbh i'm kinda looking forward to tasting this